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	<title>Comments on: 3.0 Support: Vans SK8, Leaf Trombone, Enigmo, Flick Fishing, Topple 2, Star Defense</title>
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		<title>By: Titan-CC</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-26216</link>
		<dc:creator>Titan-CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 03:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure how I&#039;ll like the in app purchases.  As long as the new content is priced comparable to the app, I think it could be ok.  I can see it being bad if a $0.99 app with a hundred levels offered a $0.99 content package that added 10 new levels...that&#039;s just unfair.  As long as the prices are fair I&#039;ll be happy...and I&#039;m still looking forward to the features in livefire/killtest/fps from ngmoco.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not sure how I'll like the in app purchases.  As long as the new content is priced comparable to the app, I think it could be ok.  I can see it being bad if a $0.99 app with a hundred levels offered a $0.99 content package that added 10 new levels...that's just unfair.  As long as the prices are fair I'll be happy...and I'm still looking forward to the features in livefire/killtest/fps from ngmoco.</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel Molerat</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-26069</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel Molerat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 08:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bought the update. But I can&#039;t use it, because my MacBook bricked. A problem that developed before the warranty ran out in December, but they said didn&#039;t exist when I took it in for repairs in February, has now destroyed my MacBook, and I can&#039;t afford the six-hundred pounds to repair it.
So I can&#039;t update my iPod, I can&#039;t sync the music, and I have to go through the convoluted rout Apple makes you take for ****s and giggles in order to sync any apps.
Fantasti.c.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought the update. But I can't use it, because my MacBook bricked. A problem that developed before the warranty ran out in December, but they said didn't exist when I took it in for repairs in February, has now destroyed my MacBook, and I can't afford the six-hundred pounds to repair it.<br />
So I can't update my iPod, I can't sync the music, and I have to go through the convoluted rout Apple makes you take for ****s and giggles in order to sync any apps.<br />
Fantasti.c.</p>
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		<title>By: spiffyone</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-25964</link>
		<dc:creator>spiffyone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d love to get a list of games that DON&#039;T work with 3.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd love to get a list of games that DON'T work with 3.0.</p>
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		<title>By: psionic</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-25941</link>
		<dc:creator>psionic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 17:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol I love the response the micropayments are having from the community. 

Seriously.. you&#039;re buying a game for like $0.99. Ever remember going to the arcades? You&#039;re lucky that the games aren&#039;t time-based micropayments lol.. I wonder what kind of &#039;outrage&#039; that would get :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol I love the response the micropayments are having from the community. </p>
<p>Seriously.. you're buying a game for like $0.99. Ever remember going to the arcades? You're lucky that the games aren't time-based micropayments lol.. I wonder what kind of 'outrage' that would get <img src='http://toucharcade.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: arn</title>
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		<dc:creator>arn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, the music updates are free.  you just have to pay when you buy new content (levels)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, the music updates are free.  you just have to pay when you buy new content (levels)</p>
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		<title>By: Hippieman</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-25918</link>
		<dc:creator>Hippieman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 15:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why?  You decided you liked the game enough to buy it, but when told you can buy more of the game you deleted it?  What sense does that make?  Don&#039;t want more Enigmo, don&#039;t buy more.  But why delete it?  

That&#039;s like saying &quot;I saw the movie, but when the DVD announced it would have special features I burned the theatre down.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why?  You decided you liked the game enough to buy it, but when told you can buy more of the game you deleted it?  What sense does that make?  Don't want more Enigmo, don't buy more.  But why delete it?  </p>
<p>That's like saying "I saw the movie, but when the DVD announced it would have special features I burned the theatre down."</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 14:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I deleted Enigmo when I saw in-app purchases listed in the update.  :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I deleted Enigmo when I saw in-app purchases listed in the update.  <img src='http://toucharcade.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: adz</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-25896</link>
		<dc:creator>adz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a question, Are there any rss readers that support push notifications yet?</description>
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		<title>By: Colonel Molerat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colonel Molerat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARGH!
My MacBook died last night (actually, it started dying a month before warranty ran out, I took it to the Apple Store, who denied anything was wrong with it and now, four months later, it won&#039;t work at all)...
I went to download the latest iPhone software from work, as well as updates for my games, but iTunes can&#039;t get around my work&#039;s proxy server for the 3.0 update. Now I&#039;m stuck with some games that are incompatible, no way to install 3.0, and my computer with all of my iTunes library completely dead (and not backed up for a month or maybe two...)
I hate Apple, I really do (and I used to be a fanboy).
Maybe the Apple Store can install 3.0 for me tonight. It&#039;s the least they can do considering their business plan involves both humiliating and bankrupting me (MacBook is just latest problem).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARGH!<br />
My MacBook died last night (actually, it started dying a month before warranty ran out, I took it to the Apple Store, who denied anything was wrong with it and now, four months later, it won't work at all)...<br />
I went to download the latest iPhone software from work, as well as updates for my games, but iTunes can't get around my work's proxy server for the 3.0 update. Now I'm stuck with some games that are incompatible, no way to install 3.0, and my computer with all of my iTunes library completely dead (and not backed up for a month or maybe two...)<br />
I hate Apple, I really do (and I used to be a fanboy).<br />
Maybe the Apple Store can install 3.0 for me tonight. It's the least they can do considering their business plan involves both humiliating and bankrupting me (MacBook is just latest problem).</p>
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		<title>By: Alichan76</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-25892</link>
		<dc:creator>Alichan76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course all that is right, however I was thinking more &#039;long-term app store future&#039; really, rather than just my individual app purchases. So I wouldn&#039;t describe it as &#039;fear&#039;. I just would like to know what the rules are. At the moment it seems &#039;anything goes&#039;. Apple haven&#039;t announced anything to the contrary to my knowledge. I feel like they&#039;ve have left this all very unclear because they don&#039;t know how the market will react, and understandably, they want to test the waters. But, I do hope that their lust for money doesn&#039;t drive them to allow more and more &#039;basic&#039; things to be deemed as &#039;extra content&#039; worthy. They would do well to set their customers minds at rest, and tell them what the perameters are, that&#039;s all.

So,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course all that is right, however I was thinking more 'long-term app store future' really, rather than just my individual app purchases. So I wouldn't describe it as 'fear'. I just would like to know what the rules are. At the moment it seems 'anything goes'. Apple haven't announced anything to the contrary to my knowledge. I feel like they've have left this all very unclear because they don't know how the market will react, and understandably, they want to test the waters. But, I do hope that their lust for money doesn't drive them to allow more and more 'basic' things to be deemed as 'extra content' worthy. They would do well to set their customers minds at rest, and tell them what the perameters are, that's all.</p>
<p>So,</p>
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		<title>By: Eric5h5</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric5h5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 09:12:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, developers could try charging extra for something basic like sound effects, but seriously, who would be insane enough to do that?  Yes, there are a couple of insane developers who might, but you must know that nobody would pay for that.  They&#039;d just leave lots of 1-star reviews on iTunes and the dev would get a terrible reputation.  So I don&#039;t know where these paid content fears are coming from.  Once you buy a game, you aren&#039;t forced to buy all paid content for it too, you know...if you think the extra content is stupid and not worth paying for, then don&#039;t.  Simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, developers could try charging extra for something basic like sound effects, but seriously, who would be insane enough to do that?  Yes, there are a couple of insane developers who might, but you must know that nobody would pay for that.  They'd just leave lots of 1-star reviews on iTunes and the dev would get a terrible reputation.  So I don't know where these paid content fears are coming from.  Once you buy a game, you aren't forced to buy all paid content for it too, you know...if you think the extra content is stupid and not worth paying for, then don't.  Simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Alichan76</title>
		<link>http://toucharcade.com/2009/06/17/30-support-vans-sk8-leaf-trombone-enigmo-flick-fishing-topple-2-star-defense/#comment-25887</link>
		<dc:creator>Alichan76</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 08:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind paying this 59p for &#039;extra up-dates&#039; whatever the original price of the game, if the game is on the level of these games (I have the last four on the list), but this new fangled &#039;payed extra content&#039; thing has grey area for me, as an awful lot of games on the app store are being released basically as a &#039;work in progress&#039;. Take Fieldrunners for example. When it came out, there was no sound and one map with promises of more to come. People bought it (including me), knowing they were to be given free up-dates that included &#039;more maps and sound&#039;.

What are the rules now? Can devs get away with charging for stuff that, as in the above scenario, is actually fundemental game material that should be there from day 1, and pop it conveniently under the umbrella of &#039;extra content&#039;.

I&#039;d love to know, and honestly, I think most people who frequent the app store regularly but don&#039;t visit forums like TA, would also love to know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don't mind paying this 59p for 'extra up-dates' whatever the original price of the game, if the game is on the level of these games (I have the last four on the list), but this new fangled 'payed extra content' thing has grey area for me, as an awful lot of games on the app store are being released basically as a 'work in progress'. Take Fieldrunners for example. When it came out, there was no sound and one map with promises of more to come. People bought it (including me), knowing they were to be given free up-dates that included 'more maps and sound'.</p>
<p>What are the rules now? Can devs get away with charging for stuff that, as in the above scenario, is actually fundemental game material that should be there from day 1, and pop it conveniently under the umbrella of 'extra content'.</p>
<p>I'd love to know, and honestly, I think most people who frequent the app store regularly but don't visit forums like TA, would also love to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 07:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PuzzleQuest doesn&#039;t work well with OS3.0 ... it&#039;s running veeeeery slow, gameplay is nearly impossible. I hope it gets an update, too :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PuzzleQuest doesn't work well with OS3.0 ... it's running veeeeery slow, gameplay is nearly impossible. I hope it gets an update, too <img src='http://toucharcade.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Sullivan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Sullivan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 01:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@FallenAngel
Just curious, what is better? Open Feint 2.0 has every feature and more as far as I know (just released a day ago.) I&#039;m a developer, so I&#039;m researching a bit here. :)
Here&#039;s the OpenFeint website to compare:
http://www.openfeint.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@FallenAngel<br />
Just curious, what is better? Open Feint 2.0 has every feature and more as far as I know (just released a day ago.) I'm a developer, so I'm researching a bit here. <img src='http://toucharcade.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Here's the OpenFeint website to compare:<br />
<a href="http://www.openfeint.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.openfeint.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: FallenAngel</title>
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		<dc:creator>FallenAngel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 00:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love Plus+ Network in Star Defense. Way better than Open Feint!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love Plus+ Network in Star Defense. Way better than Open Feint!</p>
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