Comments on: Ngmoco Activates "Special Offers" Option for 'Eliminate Pro' Power Cells http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/ ... keeping in touch with the latest in iPhone gaming Fri, 10 Feb 2012 13:59:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Crazybthuk http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-63463 Crazybthuk Fri, 09 Apr 2010 08:46:28 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-63463 It was an fantastic Game but i real don't like the Power cells you didnt can buy it at the Game you Must buy it for many £ It was an fantastic Game but i real don't like the Power cells you didnt can buy it at the Game you Must buy it for many £

]]> By: Nick http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-52538 Nick Thu, 28 Jan 2010 04:05:38 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-52538 Hey, just in case anyone cares, I just got the offers to work. Had to turn off my iPod Touch and turn it back on. When I did so, all of my offers had been redeemed and I had 2000 credits. Oh, and by the way, for those of you who think just pressing that top button turns it off, that's not true. You have to hold the button down and slide it to shut it down. Don't want to be that annoying duchebag who states the obvious, but just for those of you who don't know. Hey, just in case anyone cares, I just got the offers to work. Had to turn off my iPod Touch and turn it back on. When I did so, all of my offers had been redeemed and I had 2000 credits. Oh, and by the way, for those of you who think just pressing that top button turns it off, that's not true. You have to hold the button down and slide it to shut it down. Don't want to be that annoying duchebag who states the obvious, but just for those of you who don't know.

]]> By: elimpro_jul97 http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-50497 elimpro_jul97 Fri, 15 Jan 2010 17:27:14 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-50497 I love this game. There is a slight problem now though. When you follow what the instructions say, so Go to Gear Up - Get Energy - Special Offers, it shows you the offers homepage but you can´t click on the Eliminate Tab! So you don´t know what offers there are? Does anybody know the offers of today? I love this game. There is a slight problem now though. When you follow what the instructions say, so Go to Gear Up - Get Energy - Special Offers, it shows you the offers homepage but you can´t click on the Eliminate Tab!
So you don´t know what offers there are?
Does anybody know the offers of today?

]]> By: Dude http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-43317 Dude Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:51:47 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-43317 I saw it in top 5 I saw it in top 5

]]> By: tdog http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-43140 tdog Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:08:44 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-43140 so far i have all the free rewards you have to play the game for a second then go back an you get the free reward very simple so far i have all the free rewards you have to play the game for a second then go back an you get the free reward very simple

]]> By: JeremyR http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42559 JeremyR Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:33:49 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42559 I guess because so many IPhone users must have Macs this sort of thing seems new, but this business model has been extremly popular in PC gaming for quite some times. "Free to Play" it's called, and while mostly it's for MMORPGs (there are literally 100s of them), there are examples of most genres, from FPS (Warrock) to Racing (Project Torque). Basically it's a way of making far more money than they would simply charging a normal fee. In theory, it's not bad, but most of these companies are really good at milking money out of players. Games end up being "pay to win". And for those that don't have money or don't want to spend it, all these surveys and trial offers are a (rather sleazy) way to produce income as well. At the risk of sounding alarmist, I think this is a huge risk to the iPhone. At least it's going to change the iPhone dramatically. More and more polished games will use this model rather than sell themselves for a low-ish price. I guess because so many IPhone users must have Macs this sort of thing seems new, but this business model has been extremly popular in PC gaming for quite some times. "Free to Play" it's called, and while mostly it's for MMORPGs (there are literally 100s of them), there are examples of most genres, from FPS (Warrock) to Racing (Project Torque).

Basically it's a way of making far more money than they would simply charging a normal fee.

In theory, it's not bad, but most of these companies are really good at milking money out of players. Games end up being "pay to win".

And for those that don't have money or don't want to spend it, all these surveys and trial offers are a (rather sleazy) way to produce income as well.

At the risk of sounding alarmist, I think this is a huge risk to the iPhone. At least it's going to change the iPhone dramatically. More and more polished games will use this model rather than sell themselves for a low-ish price.

]]> By: Dylan http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42487 Dylan Mon, 09 Nov 2009 22:16:47 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42487 I wonder how much$ ngmoco has grabbed off of this in app energy purchace approach they took vs. if they sold the game for say $1.99(or whatever) x's the # of downloads the game has received so far. $$$$$ I wonder how much$ ngmoco has grabbed off of this in app energy purchace approach they took vs. if they sold the game for say $1.99(or whatever) x's the # of downloads the game has received so far. $$$$$

]]> By: JCKarlo http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42445 JCKarlo Mon, 09 Nov 2009 19:35:48 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42445 Step out of the box and just look at it...Why should you really pay countless sums of cash to play a 4-player game on a phone? And the argument that "you can always play for free" is ridiculous. Playing without gain gets old fast, not to mention hours of waiting for a couple minutes of imbalanced ranked games. I think the in-app purchase system is fine, but it seems developers are exploiting it to maximize their profits, disguising their strategy with marketing ploys like ngmoco making Eliminate free. I'll be fine with spending money one-time for new weapons, but to spend money to actually play the game and make it worthwhile is completely and utterly ridiculous. Step out of the box and just look at it...Why should you really pay countless sums of cash to play a 4-player game on a phone? And the argument that "you can always play for free" is ridiculous. Playing without gain gets old fast, not to mention hours of waiting for a couple minutes of imbalanced ranked games.

I think the in-app purchase system is fine, but it seems developers are exploiting it to maximize their profits, disguising their strategy with marketing ploys like ngmoco making Eliminate free. I'll be fine with spending money one-time for new weapons, but to spend money to actually play the game and make it worthwhile is completely and utterly ridiculous.

]]> By: Moloch Horridus http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42434 Moloch Horridus Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:21:48 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42434 Regarding entertainment, what else do you have to wait for to enjoy these days? Nothing. We've got TiVos and such to watch tv whenever we wish, iTunes and others to get music and movies to at will, podcasts to listen to when need arises, games installed in our various devices to play when bored, we can even order food right to our doorsteps when hungry for heavens sake. Then there is Eliminate, which lets you play couple of few minute matches once or twice a day - unless you're ready to pay hefty fee for a minute of fun. Fun you can get cheaper, if not free, and - to use Apple's terms - funner from elsewhere. The bugs with international versions, promised yet absent free gametime with promoted cells and all the features missing from the game everyone and their mother is used to seeing in the genre, all in all Eliminate is pretty poor show. It was fun while it lasted, few days that was. Now its bye bye instead of buy buy for Eliminate. Uninstalling. Good luck ngmoco, you're going to need it with this one. Regarding entertainment, what else do you have to wait for to enjoy these days? Nothing. We've got TiVos and such to watch tv whenever we wish, iTunes and others to get music and movies to at will, podcasts to listen to when need arises, games installed in our various devices to play when bored, we can even order food right to our doorsteps when hungry for heavens sake.
Then there is Eliminate, which lets you play couple of few minute matches once or twice a day - unless you're ready to pay hefty fee for a minute of fun. Fun you can get cheaper, if not free, and - to use Apple's terms - funner from elsewhere.

The bugs with international versions, promised yet absent free gametime with promoted cells and all the features missing from the game everyone and their mother is used to seeing in the genre, all in all Eliminate is pretty poor show.

It was fun while it lasted, few days that was. Now its bye bye instead of buy buy for Eliminate. Uninstalling. Good luck ngmoco, you're going to need it with this one.

]]> By: Scammy Scammerson http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42405 Scammy Scammerson Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:05:49 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42405 So lame, what would have been a great game is ruined by this in app purchase crap. Apple allows this to take place and it is ruining the store. I complain to the devs and all I hear is sob stories about piracy numbers. I DONT CARE, why should we be punished because some people are thieves? Not supporting this game in its current state and I encourage you to do the same or soon all games will be just like this shit. Want some power cells, make a discover card. f!@# off this is crap. So lame, what would have been a great game is ruined by this in app purchase crap. Apple allows this to take place and it is ruining the store. I complain to the devs and all I hear is sob stories about piracy numbers. I DONT CARE, why should we be punished because some people are thieves? Not supporting this game in its current state and I encourage you to do the same or soon all games will be just like this shit. Want some power cells, make a discover card. f!@# off this is crap.

]]> By: Autobott` http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42404 Autobott` Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:04:13 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42404 Same here...I had EPW already installed, deleted it and reinstalled and still no batteries. Same here...I had EPW already installed, deleted it and reinstalled and still no batteries.

]]> By: Rusty Shakleford http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42403 Rusty Shakleford Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:59:16 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42403 ^Agreed these in app purchases have got to stop!!! Apple allowed this and no its getting out of hand. Buying an extra course in golf is one thing but these games are so scammy and totally revolve around in app purchasing. I agree 100% Nazo and we might need to make a petition on this one or else I'm afraid this is what the app store is going to become. CRAP ^Agreed these in app purchases have got to stop!!! Apple allowed this and no its getting out of hand. Buying an extra course in golf is one thing but these games are so scammy and totally revolve around in app purchasing. I agree 100% Nazo and we might need to make a petition on this one or else I'm afraid this is what the app store is going to become. CRAP

]]> By: Nazo Sislian http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42400 Nazo Sislian Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:30:15 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42400 People wake up, It's time to wake up and see this ng moco scam for what it is. I think Eliminate pro is a great game,(not the best in the world- but that's not the point). But what ngmoco is doing here is openly milking the people who want to play the game off their cash. Yes I know the game is for free. Yes I know that you can play without buying energy cells; if you are willing to wait through 12 hours of free recharge so that you can play for 5-10 mints. YES!!your energy level winds down in 10 mints max!!! But look at the big picture, this whole thing is WRONG. 2 days ago I paid 9.99 euro (15 USD)on some power cells thinking that I am paying to play the game for good without having to worry about energy anymore. Well you see, nothing ever mentions that you are spending real money to buy virtual DISPOSABLE power cells. And the problem in all this you ask? Well, if you play eliminate pro for 1 hour per day (using power cells to recharge) you end up using around 9.99 euro worth of power cells per week. That's more than 500 euro, 746 USD for the whole year. Well, I dunno about you, but I'm no millionaire, and frankly no game on the planet deserves that much money. What ng moco is doing here, is discretely and dishonestly getting you addicted to a game so that they can put their hands in your pocket. This kind of business practices shouldn't even exist.Apple, you started this, you gotta put an end to it. I would rather pay 20 euro to own and play a game as much as I like rather than get caught up in "it's a free game - what are you complaining about bullshit". It's a good thing that for 9.99 euro you can still buy ANY other game in the app store for good to play for 24 hrs if you wish!!! People wake up,
It's time to wake up and see this ng moco scam for what it is.
I think Eliminate pro is a great game,(not the best in the world- but that's not the point). But what ngmoco is doing here is openly milking the people who want to play the game off their cash.

Yes I know the game is for free.
Yes I know that you can play without buying energy cells; if you are willing to wait through 12 hours of free recharge so that you can play for 5-10 mints. YES!!your energy level winds down in 10 mints max!!!
But look at the big picture, this whole thing is WRONG.

2 days ago I paid 9.99 euro (15 USD)on some power cells thinking that I am paying to play the game for good without having to worry about energy anymore.
Well you see, nothing ever mentions that you are spending real money to buy virtual DISPOSABLE power cells. And the problem in all this you ask?

Well, if you play eliminate pro for 1 hour per day (using power cells to recharge) you end up using around 9.99 euro worth of power cells per week. That's more than 500 euro, 746 USD for the whole year.

Well, I dunno about you, but I'm no millionaire, and frankly no game on the planet deserves that much money.

What ng moco is doing here, is discretely and dishonestly getting you addicted to a game so that they can put their hands in your pocket.

This kind of business practices shouldn't even exist.Apple, you started this, you gotta put an end to it.

I would rather pay 20 euro to own and play a game as much as I like rather than get caught up in "it's a free game - what are you complaining about bullshit".
It's a good thing that for 9.99 euro you can still buy ANY other game in the app store for good to play for 24 hrs if you wish!!!

]]> By: Dark NRG http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42356 Dark NRG Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:51:23 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42356 Because of the brief history of the App store with promo codes, shill reviews and other things that Apple has to keep in "check" to make top 10/100 "fair and true", and not fabricated. With this new practice, again a system is set to be broken by a vast number of ppl downloading the pet war game just for cells, and then making it a top free download whether it deserves it or not. Future games and devs inplementing this practice will only exasperate the system. Hodapp and Arn know more about this, but I don't understand why they seem to not be addressing some of the posts regarding this. Id really love to learn if this is not the case in actuallity, or just another problem that will be addressed in future itunes updates eventually. Because of the brief history of the App store with promo codes, shill reviews and other things that Apple has to keep in "check" to make top 10/100 "fair and true", and not fabricated. With this new practice, again a system is set to be broken by a vast number of ppl downloading the pet war game just for cells, and then making it a top free download whether it deserves it or not. Future games and devs inplementing this practice will only exasperate the system. Hodapp and Arn know more about this, but I don't understand why they seem to not be addressing some of the posts regarding this. Id really love to learn if this is not the case in actuallity, or just another problem that will be addressed in future itunes updates eventually.

]]> By: Dark NRG http://toucharcade.com/2009/11/08/ngmoco-activates-special-offers-option-for-eliminate-pro-power-cells/#comment-42355 Dark NRG Mon, 09 Nov 2009 02:47:11 +0000 http://toucharcade.com/?p=24698#comment-42355 Agree. Agree.

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