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Apple Tablet and Future of Touch Gaming

posted January 5th, 2010 6:02 PM EST by arn in News

If you've been paying attention at all the tech media, you will have heard about the rumored Apple tablet. Apple is widely expected to announce a new tablet device at the end of January, for possible release as early as March. The upcoming 10" tablet (or iSlate) is believed to be based on the iPhone operating system and adopt the App Store model for 3rd party developers.

We discussed the implications of such a device for gaming in our recent podcast, but weren't entirely sure what it would mean. A large screen multi-touch device might open up some interesting possibilities in the realm of gaming, but the adoption of a more expensive device will certainly be slower than the explosive growth of the iPhone and iPod Touch.

We were reminded, however, of Illusion Labs' tech demo showing their iPhone games Sway [$4.99] and TouchGrind [$4.99] on a massive multi-touch table:

We thought it would be a good discussion piece as we await to see what Apple will unveil later this month.

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  • http://www.drafternoon.com mek

    I have been itching to upgrade my 1st gen ipod touch, it has quite a bit of dead pixels on it, but it is still playable

    if the so called islate can play most to all of the apps purchased in the appstore on my itunes, I would gladly pay the premium $1000 to have all the rumored features, faster processor, and just a larger screen...I haven't been this excited about a rumored product since the rumors/announcement of the iphone

  • WOW

    wow touchgrind actually looks playable on that huge screen lol

  • Refugee P

    Hmm.. flight control the world map? Eliminate with a bigger depth of field? Air Hockey anyone? How about full scale tower defence games.. HECK YEAH!! It all comes down to price and imagination. No matter what, Apple will make us subliminally want one anyway :) New year, so start saving!!

  • http://musicgamespickles.blogspot.com/ Robert M.

    I'm buying whatever it is... Day One!! lol

  • Matt

    I hope it is pressure sensitive, if so imagine the possibilities as a musical instrument.

  • http://www.silentrocco.com Silent Rocco

    I own a great MacBook and a fantastic iPhone 3GS, anything in-between would be pretty useless for me. What for?! This time, they are really going to just release a fashion tool. Why should I need such a third device?! It's perhaps useful for people having a desktop computer at home, but no notebook. Hm...

  • chris

    im waiting for gen 4 ipod to come out. then i will retire my touch 2. my guess the tablet will be out of reach price wiese with me.. but i guess like anything time will tell.

    chris.

  • Bruce

    I am very interested in seeing the rumoured iTablet (whatever it may be called). I love my iPod Touch: its only real flaw in my eyes is that the screen is too small, so if the tablet is essentially a larger version of an iPod I would think it's great. I just wonder about the price - I think my Ipod was a bargain at $200, but a price of $1000 for the tablet would put it out of my reach.

  • Jason X

    I'll be the first in line! LOL! BUT, forgive me if this is a dumb question, but if you're really looking for an all out gaming system why not just get Xbox, Playstation, or wii? I'd like it more as a portable computer device with gaming as a side dish.

  • Swishinj

    No one can afford a 10 inch device not running a full OS. Whats the point? The iPod touch screen is large enough for handheld gaming and the iPhone is a PHONE that boasts gaming!!!!!! If you want a larger screen and play games, BUY A TOUCHSCREEN LAPTOP for 1 grand with an actual OS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • cranker

    I would buy it just to play apps on a large screen :)

  • cranker

    For some reason I just love the the app shop :)

    For some reason I have not enjoyed gaming this much since the SNES days.

    I would buy it just for games and the other features will be a bonus !

  • Will090

    Games aren't $60 ;)

  • Will090

    That giant touchgrind looks incredible :O The original touchgrind is one of my top 5 favorite iPhone games and with the increased field of vision I would never stop playing that

  • bushka

    i'd say maybe it might be a product that will replace the macbook air, cant really say many people bought those, maybe a fully featured mac WITH all the iphone os capability for touch

  • Matija

    Islate will be pretty great for apps and multimedia, but I would rather bought macbook. 1000$ is to much, you can buy good notebook for that money.

  • Shadowsfall

    So this isn't the Mac Tablet right? Says it's made from a different company. I suggest that Apple's touchscreen will be better.

  • http://musicgamespickles.blogspot.com/ Robert M.

    Nothing beats the real thing! I love my 3GS but nothing will replace my consoles! So I understand what you're saying.

  • MrMuesli

    I'm thinking Labyrinth with one person on each corner with that monster on the vid; )
    As for the 10" version, the latest podcast brought up the point that I can't really get past which is how do you hold the damn thing?!* On your lap and get chronic neck ache or in your hands and get chronic arm ache, hmmm the agony of choice: /

  • http://www.silentrocco.com Silent Rocco

    Yeah, THIS is an argument!

  • killer006

    Why not add a computer to that list. I mean it will smoke all of those combined if u want an "all out gaming system". But going to what someone said the price of games is great and is just fun for something different. Most devices don't have the awesome dedicated fan followings like TA has developed.
    Like some others im looking forward to the gaming first then the features 2nd but its still an awesome idea.

  • killer006

    Yea this is a good point about how you would hold such a thing. Not only does it look interesting to hold but like what about accelerometer games that only have tilt... That would seem pretty difficult to use. Although i kinda doubt accel will be put in.

  • TKO

    How do you hold it? Please! I will contort into whatever pose is necessary to use such an awesome device. ..your Apple fanboy card has been revoked.

  • http://www.silentrocco.com Silent Rocco

    Accelerometer is even in average Macbooks, so why should they change it...

  • MrMuesli

    I guess you'd better get practising your yoga then; ) Granted though, it does sound awesome...if somewhat superfluous.

  • ThePika

    You guys do realize that we know practically nothing about this at the moment. It could esentially be anything with any purpose. The MacBook is for mobile computerizing, the iPhone for a cell phone easy to use basic computer, the macpro for intense video editing or gameplaying, the iPod touch for music and apps, and the tablet? Apple has most likely found some great purpose for it to serve. We will all be suprised later this month. I don't think this will replace the ipodtouch in any way. Apps on it would be sweet though. Let's just wait in agony and see. :)

  • http://www.drafternoon.com mek

    but if you have already purchased hundreds of apps on the app store, and hopefully you can port them over, the barrier to entry is somewhat lowered, cause if i was to buy a $200 PS3 or xbox, and a few $60 games...compared to the tablet, - the $300+ i already have in apps...

  • http://www.drafternoon.com mek

    on Windows? eugh...i never want to use a windows OS ever again

  • Greg

    It would be easier to surf the web, read newspapers, magazines, and ebooks. Games... not sure. Twinstick shooters would be a no go for sure.

  • TKO

    Yeah.. I love apple kit, but I'm about burned out on the whole tablet-speculation in the press. ..and it's not even here! ..I was even gonna avoid Touch Arcade today when I saw the tweet for this article. (But hey .. it's Touch Arcade. I need my gaming news.) :D

  • TKO

    Not superfluous for me. I have an iPhone, two desktops at home, and two at work. All those times I want to read/browse/email/tweet ..anywhere ..without finding a flat space a laptop would need, or without even sitting down ..this would be perfect. Most of my not-at-a-desk computing doesn't need a full keyboard. I'd rather do without the keyboard and be *comfortable*.

    Besides. Multi-touch interfaces are just more awesome. :)

  • cranker

    True, But many games work work very well.

  • Dylan

    That would be amazing. If it is, I will want one for my birthday, if not, I want a Mac Book Pro.

  • Zero144

    It's been rumored to run OS 10.7 (the next mac operating system)

  • MidianGTX

    I'd love to see how chaotic Flight Control could get on something that size. Just imagine, we could actually end up controlling an entire airport... multiple runways, luggage carriers etc.

    Also... tower defense games on that scale *drool*

  • http://flare.lefora.com/ Omada61

    i think its just gonna be a touch screen computer. its supposed to have some sort of feed back for the keyboard. and it is also pretty reliably rumored that it is going to run Mac OS but still be able to play iphone games on a bigger screen. its supposed to have a 120 gb hard drive and 2 gb ram. i think its awesome. if all that is true then im getting the islate instead of a macbook.

  • http://flare.lefora.com/ Omada61

    i dont think its gonna be that heavy. the video is not showing the islate/tablet its showing a multi touch table. im sure you would hold it to play games and set it down to type.

  • http://www.toucharcade.com Mr T Bailey

    Anybody thought of this? Being able to link your touch/iphone via usb or bluetooth to the tablet to use it as a handcontroller for games on the tablet? Might be fun...

  • Adams Immersive

    I’m amazed how much I play games on my iPhone, when previously I was focused on desktop gaming. I don’t know that I NEED a bigger touch-gaming screen, and I certainly wouldn’t carry it every day alongside my iPhone. But I do WANT one, and would use it at home, on trips, and at meetings. (Not for games at meetings... well maybe!)

  • http://rhetoricate.com John

    But can it play Crysis?

    But seriously, the real question is: Will it have Flashplayer?

  • Lix

    The iSlate could be cool, imagine holding it up like a sterring wheel anb driving like that with the world right before your eyes, it might just work, if it's got all those gyro accelerator thingymajiggs

  • http://www.scottcolbert.wordpress.com Scott

    I'm beginning to think Steve Jobs could take a dump in a box and you'd all clamber over how great it is.

  • http://www.toucharcade.com Mr T Bailey

    If his "dump-in-a-box" did what the iphone could do, then yes I would clamber all over it.

    Like a hungry little fly.

  • Bruce

    The Apple iPoop...

  • Dark NRG

    I bet it's a. Less than 1000 bones
    and b. Something we can't imagine.

    On appleinsider this past summer they uncovered patents with a iPhone-looking device for aptec touch feedback and RFID reader. Just imagine what u could do with RFID!

  • Yffum

    Well, first of all, I think that Apple can't possibly be stupid enough to make a device without a keyboard and price it as high as their MacBook. This device is definitely gonna be less than a thousand. Second, holding it wouldn't be that hard. I can imagine holding my 13" MacBookPro's screen. It's very thin and you could easily play dual stick shooters. You'd have to place them a little higher than the very bottom corners, but it would work. I don't know how they're gonna make it play iPhone games though, because most games just wouldn't work. There's gotta be something ingenious about it though, cause like they were saying in the podcast, I have my iPhone and MacBookPro, what the hell do I need this for and why would I pay $1000 for it?

  • elf

    It is interesting to see people commenting on this and saying they are not going to buy one...
    This post has three times more comments than most posts on TA and it is a repetition of an old post with more rumours. I am pretty sure everyone posting here will go after the itablet/islate ASAP

  • AIM-R8

    I'm curious to see if this could lead to some multiplayer games played on just the Apple Tablet. Simplest I can think of is something along the lines of Air Hockey. Others are board games like Monopoly or Scrabble.

    What do you guys think?

    One potential problem could be that it would have to be written specifically for the Apple Tablet, unless there would be a way for an app to be downloaded once, and it recognizes what hardware it is installed on. Meaning, do the "pass around turn by turn" if on iPhone/iPod Touch, or simultaneous multi-player if on the Apple Tablet.

    What other games do you guys think could have simultaneous multiplayer?

  • http://www.illusionlabs.com Anders

    No it's made by Touchtech.

  • Acidbottle

    lol that looks rediculous .. and worse still hard work!

    i confess to skipping thru the posts here and the article itself but that will never succeed commercially. will be expensive, space hogging and the apps themselves wouldnt be 99c right? ;)

    no, i wouldnt buy one, not now or ever.

  • http://www.mooedia.co.uk Tomchap

    I would like some sort of device that I could use while my missus is on my macbook. Would be great if there was a way to access the files on my Macbook while my missus is playing a game. Would be great if there was some sort of Apple TV sized box that these iSlates could use to access files and for instance run multiple things at once.

    Eg.

    Me and my missus have an iSlate each and an Apple TV Sized box with say 160 - 250 gb hard disk in it. I could use my iSlate for Programming and my missus could use hers and play the full Sims 3 happily without any hiccups.

    Otherwise I doubt I will be purchasing an iSlate as my Macbook and iPhone does me at the mo! :)

  • http://www.spongefile.com spongefile

    This is exactly the experience I've been waiting for ever since I first heard the Tablet rumor.

  • MrMuesli

    I guess if it made coffee for me in the morning I'd revoke that 'superfluous' statement; ) How about it Apple? You seem to have thought of everything else...

  • Steven

    Yea touchgrind definitly looks more playable on that touchscreen, like actually tech deckin, ah I wanna play it right now! Lol

  • Gert

    I'm very curious what possibilities it has for cooperating with other devices.

    What could it be like as a network media streaming device? Will it stream video from a computer to it's own screen or even a tv? Will it be an Apple TV?

    Could it be a game console when connected to a tv, using Wii-like input from iPhones and iPod Touches?

    Will it accept input from Apple's bluetooth keyboards?

    In combination with the App Store and depending on things like these, it could have lots of unexpected added value for anyone for a price that should start around $700 I think...

  • Gert

    Will it have a dock which allows it to stand up like a laptop screen and with tv-out?

    Will it have USB ports for 3rd party keyboards in offices???

  • TKO

    Oh god, I hope not. The whole web-browsing experience is so much faster/cleaner without flash cluttering it up, spawning annoying punch-the-monkey ads, and trying to crash things.

    At least, if it's there, I'd like to be able to turn it off like I can in desktop Safari. ..and if HTML5 video tags take off, I wouldn't miss flash in the slightest.

  • TKO

    This is exactly the poop i want. Just like I was always annoyed the cellphone makers didn't have the balls to remove the keypad before iPhone, current tablets annoy me in that they don't have the balls to remove the keyboard, throw away that stupid stylus, and re-think the whole UI. ..if it's done half-decently this will be *exactly* the mobile experience I've been desiring for many many months.

  • TKO

    I bet it uses that new light-peak standard for ports. That's just Apple's style ..and it's been a good few months since they've pissed off the masses with a new type of port on their devices. ;)

  • TKO

    We're voting you out of the Steve Jobs appreciation club. Please hand back your black turtle-neck at the next meeting. :p

  • Bruce

    Heh heh. Good point...
    I can see paying a few hundred for a large screen iPod, but not $1000.
    I guess we'll see what is revealed...

  • Spedygnzls

    How about leveraging the tech of new tablet and OS 4.0 to play more immersive, interactive RPGs line Oni. Imagine using up to 4 finger gestures to swing kick, run and slide under opponents/obstacles and going hand to hand in combat! Here's hoping for awesomeness!

  • http://pocketfullofapps.com yourofl10

    Seen as how TouchGrind was run on that big touch screen thing, maybe they were the first ever dev it be contacted about this and demoed it on a different machine?

  • spiffyone

    I still say that as excited as people seem to be for the tablet (iSlate? really?) that my feeling is that the tablet will be nothing more than an oversized iPhone/touch device. It most likely will only feature current App Store games dedicated primarily to the aforementioned platform rather than it's own games (due to entry price point for one).

    No, the real "next big thing" in terms of Apple's push into gaming (specifically thinking along those lines as this is a gaming centric site) is not the mythical iSlate, but rather the ugly redheaded stepchild of the Apple product family:

    AppleTV.

    Again, iSlate will most likely be nothing more than a go between the Macbooks and the iPhone/touch platform. It's going to basically be a suped up iPhone/touch. Nothing more, nothing less. But a reconfigured Apple TV, with all new specs, could in fact do for the set top box digital download market what iPhone/touch did for the mobile market: revolutionize everything. And games would be one of the weapons along with other apps made available in an Apple TV (again, new Apple TV) centric App Store.

    With the home consoles basically doing some of what Apple TV does (digital download movies, music, etc.), and MS, Sony and Nintendo having some download game services, why not have Apple do them all one better? A totally digital download entertainment hub. Music, movies and, yes, games (the latter not only original-made-for-AppleTV games, but also iPhone/touch games, ala PSP games on PS3) along with the type of productivity, creative, etc. apps that Apple will have that the others won't. Apple TV will then also double as an inexpensive Apple computer, broadening their market further.

  • Gekkota

    $1000? Pfffft! That\'s WAY too much. I was looking forward to the tablet until I started hearing about the inflated price. I have been holding off on replacing my 1st Gen Touch, and I assumed I would replace it with a shiny new iSlate. I\'d gladly pay $500-600, but $1000? No, thanks.

    I\'ll wait for the price drop, or maybe get one of those new Freescale tablets running Linux for $199. Apple needs to take a look at all the new tablets being introduced at CES, and put a more realistic--and competitive--price tag on their own product. They are not the only game in town.

  • chris

    i think it would be cool as heck to have that large touch screen. just opens up so many ideas.. im very happy i live in the age of touch screen computers. it rocks.. i would pay 4-6 bones for itablet. imagine the interactive books.. man that would make my day. i have this vision of a book that is interactive. think of the old popup style books where you turn a page and figures popup. but with mini games in it which would change the story. some animations.. the possibility s are endless. but then i love to read. by the way im still trying to get the hang of sway. man on that big touch screen i would be lost. lol. i have almost convinced to buy sway however, 5bucks to annoy me.. i would say wait to go on sale but from the thread i read it will not go on sale.. .
    here is to a great 2010. i honestly did not think i would live to see 2000. lol, im 35 now.. ( i did have a accident which killed me( i died for 2 mins etc ) took me two years to learn to walk again.. and my life will never be the same but hell im breathing and loving my ipod touch!!!! trippy times. :) i say jobs bring on the itablet and lets see what cool things that can be done..

    chris..

  • http://www.haiku-os.org nutela

    Except for the fact that Apple has not so long ago issued a sw update for Apple TV (3.0). It would be interesting of course, the iPhone/iTouch could be used as a controller, games for iPhone/iTouch could be played on the big screen (they would look pretty bad though).
    The fact that Apple TV can display at most 720p has irritated me quite a lot and has stopped me from buying it until now; I watch Prison Break (I'm late I know) in 720p and I must say it looks really good, good enough. File sizes are acceptable (for downloading mostly) so I'm going to buy one, hack it, enjoy it. The best thing about 'it' is the remote app.

  • KGameLover1

    If you guys see my posts in the lounge on the Apple tablet speculations thread, you can see some secret info leaked by an Apple employee :D

  • KGameLover1

    Really? Linux?

    Why?


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