We're mad as hell about iOS games that cost money, have ads, and/or any IAP at all.

Discussion in 'General Game Discussion and Questions' started by tsharpfilm, Nov 3, 2009.

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Is Canabalt worth $2.99?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Not my type of game

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  1. leogodoy

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    That's why hookers should be cheaper.
     
  2. Rivozzz

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    sorry dude..but thats not that DS or PSP store...its the app store...and it has its own world and its competitors..unless u can compete with them in appstore u wont survive !!! each store has its rules !....even most sophiticated gameloft games or even square enix did massive sales to follow the appstore rules...
     
  3. sticktron

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    Hey a days work is worth a good hooker.
     
  4. STYJ

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    I really don't wanna join this convo but we really need to clarify some stuffs .

    Why are some of you mixing games from different platforms and comparing them ? You do not compare iOS games with DS games even though they're the same i.e. iOS store =/= DS games in a shopping centre .

    FF13 priced at 16 is indeed expensive relative to the average prices in the iOS store (Please don't ask me what the average is because I don't know but I certainly know that its way lesser than 16)

    Let's just ASSUME the average price of games is 4 dollars . Then FF13's price would be inflated by an additional 300% (Don't agree with me or disagree with me , SE had their reasons for doing so. Maybe because of the work they put into porting this game ? They're a professional company and if they need someone to teach them on their pricing strategies then why not hire you instead?)

    Using the same analogy , the same game would cost 300% more of the average price on DS . Only then can you compare them (by finding the percentage duh ..)

    I'm not sure if you may think that I'm taking any sides but I'll clarify it for you , I'm on nobody's side .

    Edit : Nice number of posts you got Midian xD
     
  5. yemi

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    I just know this to be a fact. As long as IOS buyers complain about price and only buy games when on sale we will see very little console quality games like dead space.
    I notice alot of people asking for updates to games like ultimate mortal kombat . For 99 cents thats the best you can get. For some reason any game over 99 cents fall victum to attacks.
    The quality of games will not improve dramatically unless the consumers accept a higher price point. 99 cents is great for indie developers , but chump change to game studios that have alot of overhead to pay. As long as this disrespect is carried on , many big companies will continue to put out crappy ports.
     
  6. natedogg213

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    #946 natedogg213, Apr 4, 2011
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    Wow, reading your posts is a chore.

    When did I ever "spam" the actual game thread? Not once, so don't send your baseless accusations my way please. It makes me laugh that the person whose job is to moderate the forum and encourage this type of conversation resorts to renaming a thread and trying to discredit our argument because you disagree. Just shows the level of credibility you have. Enforce the forum rules, how about that!?

    I don't claim to be an expert but I believe I have enough buying experience to have formed an educated opinion. Also, I don't have to buy and play the game to form a conclusion that it is overpriced. After laughing at the price, I took proactive steps to read about the DS version and have since read reviews by sites that I trust, that also question the initial high cost (Slide To Play to name one).

    I never tried to tell anyone not to buy something but am only making the argument that Square/Enix is pushing the price envelope on a remade port from 1990.

    LOL, you make it sound like I expected the game to be priced at $.99. I almost stopped reading at that point but decided to go on.

    Your notion that I should not have any "preconceptions" about game costs just spits in the face of making an informed purchase. Do you buy all your stuff at Best Buy or do you at least check on other websites or wait for a discount? Most people who buy a lot of things have an excellent perception of price. When I bought my big screen TV in 2007 I did a ton of research and ended up with a great deal.

    So when I saw that this game was $16, almost 25% higher than the most expensive game I have bought on the App Store (Chaos Rings, which was $13) I was highly skeptical. I loved Chaos Rings and the fact that it was made for the iOS makes the future look very promising. But to pay $3 more for a port of a game from 1990!? I'll wait until it is $8-10, the price that the redone FF1 and FF2 were.

    And that's what it all comes down to! I will eventually own this game but I will not pay a price that, based on my own experience of buying over 600 games including every major iOS release you can name, is overpriced! Accept it and go play FF3 game instead of incessantly repeating the same thing which in turn results in me doing the same!

    Other than this you repeated about everything I said.

    Their reasons for doing so is obvious. They are confident that at this initial price point, hardcore FF fans and impulse buyers will make the purchase. They then will drop the price to $10 or $13 in a couple months or so. Gotta love the marketplace's pricing flexibility.

    I stopped reading here. Thanks Yemi, try again!!
     
  7. Ferraridude

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    This is one of the most expensive games on the app store but it is still cheaper than the DS version.
     
  8. iphoneprogrammer

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    #948 iphoneprogrammer, Apr 4, 2011
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    Never watched "The Wire."

    My comprehension is fine, I was hooked on Phonics as a child! I figured I would come in here and stir the pot. It was getting boring and since nippy is banned from the forum I am looking for new threads that show promise. Like this one! Frankly, I really don't care either way, I bought the game cause I thought that 60+ hours of gameplay was worth the $15 bucks. Hell I spent $60 on MW2 and only got 8 hours of story gameplay. Seeing as how I don't like playing MW2 online I found the proportion of money to entertainment value quite reasonable. (For both FF3 and MW2).

    Hey leave my name alone :(
    I want to change it, but IMNS has yet to approve it.

    Child Please!
     
  9. Ayjona

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    #949 Ayjona, Apr 4, 2011
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    "Value" is, by its nature, comparable and relative, not fixed nor absolute. If the same dollars could buy you 10 or 15 hours of equally good entertainment, then the 5 hour trip is not "great value", regardless of how little time you spent earning said money.

    I do not believe that example applies to Death Rally, however. I find the game to be of great value indeed, as it provides better entertainment than most other iOS games of similar cost but longer playtime.

    (The meal analogy is further devalued by personal preference and subjective reponse, context, and past experiences. The lack of relevance of this kind of imagery is actually used as an example in sales training programmes. "Do not compare the product to either a value meal or a beer, as both are examples that might hold an unexpected value, either personal or situational, for many customers." I would gladly take a fast food meal in the right company over any iOS game, ever. The five dollars such a meal costs might be all that is compared (and thus "the right company" really shouldn't be a part of the equation), but to many receivers, the comparison carries many emotive connotations, and is therefore often rendered ineffective.)
     
  10. natedogg213

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    I did the opposite for MW2, didn't play the Single Player but enjoyed the multiplayer. However, I didn't feel like paying for their map packs...
     
  11. yemi

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    You brought over 600 games in your lifetime yet you come here to specifically complain about 1 game. Now I know your a liar , a bad one at that. Now I know the truth , your crying because you cant afford the game. A game that has 50-60 hours of gameplay you think is worth only $10 . Iam glad they made this thread for price zombies like you. It helps keep the infection from spreading to other parts of the forum.
     
  12. Ayjona

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    I'm curious why my last comment was moved to this thread, since parts of it actually pertained to the game in question. If a move was necessary, why not leave the part of the comment that actually had relevance in the context of the game?
     
  13. backtothis

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    Um I'm pretty sure it's there.
     
  14. gospel9

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    $16 is fine, but common sense tells us that it isn't the optimal price for maximum revenue. I believe EA and Gameloft have done their research well on the platform.
     
  15. MidianGTX

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    It might be when you're still selling the DS version as well. I get the feeling SE were thinking about the bigger picture in regards to FF and its sales and not just focusing on the game by itself.
     
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    #956 Vovin, Apr 4, 2011
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    LOL - just because he's a mod doesn't mean that he can't have his own opinions and bring them into discussion.
    It's not that he's kind if a forum nazi.
     
  17. ImNoSuperMan

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    I just told the 'experts' like you to discuss price of some game in this thread if you wish to and leave the original thread alone. Dont jump to conclusions without understanding what you're reading.
    A- I didnt create this thread neither have I changed its title even once (yet).

    b- Once again, everyone else can already do that. There is no need to be the savior of Appstore gamers. Such educated opinions from some random forum poster are useless. Zero value. Nil. Nada.

    c- Your 'proactive' step story makes no sense...
    Stop arguing just for arguments sake. Its just a waste of time and nothing more.

    Just took a look at the rest of your posts in this thread. Oh the irony!
     
  18. Serian

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    I agree about the price and the complainers. This game would definitely be a minimum of $10 on any of the console download stores. There is definitely a different culture on the AppStore though. One of the problems is that the big companies can afford to put their AAA games at $0.99 as they tend to make a killing on them and they also have funds that can make up for some losses. How many smaller devs or indies can really afford this type of model?

    Also, I love the touch controls more than any handheld system I have owned. If the implemented controls suck, then that is a problem with the game and not the device. Perfect Cell, M. Bug Panic, Mission Europa, Robot Wants Kitty, Hoggy, etc are all testaments to this. I would have a hard time going back to non-touch style gameplay.
     
  19. natedogg213

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    INSM, your getting emotional is again clouding your comprehension and conclusions. I am not here to save the AppStore Gamers (LOL) but to provide an opinion. Did I attempt to explicitly dissuade people from buying the app? Nope. You claim I add nothing of value to this discussion and I don't mind that accusation, but you aren't even engaged in the conversation. You are upset because I told you off via PM (which I regret but you were annoying!) and now you resort to criticizing asinine points such as warnings to not post in places i havent, and your attempt to make me look like a hypocrite by assuming that "trust" and "disagreement" are absolute opposites. You don't even have a legitimate perspective on the matter yet u continue to patrol this thread. Cool off pal!!
     
  20. zJoWz

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    Ahh, this is beginning to look like the Youtube comments section. Let the flame wars rage on! (just kidding..)
    To throw my 2 cents in here, I think is a game is to provide entertainment for longer it would need multiplayer. Playing against people beats out playing computers any day. The games with multiplayer have the right to charge more. When I see a cheap game with MP I consider it a gem (doodle jump):)
     

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